THE POT TALK
I have a brother who started out smokeing a little POT with his friend when he was in his teens. He is now in his 40's & we never know if he is ok, alive or where he is sleepingat night. Alittle pot lead to other thing till he got hooked on crack. So yes a little is BAD BAD BAD> YOu should never even try it.
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Permalink Reply by Retro on -
Hahaha!! I'm like Big Bird. While I think to each his own, on a personal basis for me.....
Why someone would deliberately want to make themselves dizzy, nauseous, depressed or paranoid, I will never know. When I get any of these, a doctor is called.
Even in high school, and college I just didn't have a "peer pressure" gene. People who drank until they puked just seemed....well...dumb. I try to avoid things like throwing up and headaches. I feel like crap when this happens to me so WHY WHY WHY would I want to do this on purpose??
It kind of explains why I didn't have a lot of party buddies.
If I need a "feel good" moment, generally chocolate does the trick. =)
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Permalink Reply by ALLAN on -
Yeah, I don't really have an answer for you. One, unless your physiology is much different than mine, the sensation is completely different. Sorry. Now just for a moment indulge me. Let's pretend that I do know what it's like to feel gratitude and appreciation. Let us assume, you and I, that I have experienced the normal range of emotions unhindered by any outside influence. All of that being understood and accepted... Still, never have experienced the rush I attempted (however poorly) to describe.
Let's look at it from a chemical point of view. That's all these drugs are doing, right? They release the 'whatever' chemicals in your brain to allow you to feel something else right? Those chemicals are being released a lot faster or perhaps more than normal, all at once. So, nope, going to have to disagree with you there. The reasons that these feelings are so much more is because you're actually stimulating your brain to do something outside it's normal operating parameters. Right or wrong I think this is what's going on.
I heard a lecture once that when you kiss a girl the brain releases serotonin (or something like that). When you smoke crack your brain is compelled to release enough serotonin to simulate a hundred kisses. Problem is that it's fleeting at best. Your brain only generates so much of this chemical so when that is over (chemical used and no longer present) you don't have nearly as much as you used to and therefore your day to day seems bleaker by contrast. Then you take another hit, another wash, another crash, even less chemical and the world seems a dreary place indeed. Anyway, I think this travels a bit from weed, but if we apply the same template perhaps my point can be seen. However it could be that I am just rambling.
Now as far as your side affects you mentioned. I know what you mean. Not personally for I've never felt anything like that unless I was drinking alcohol. My wife did though and she can't tolerate the stuff (MJ, not alcohol).
Never felt any kind of depression, crash, and definitely no loss of conscious control. We're talking MJ here not alcohol. For I've definitely felt all of those symptoms with alcohol.
I would never classify the effects of alcohol in any positive manner. I do drink a beer or three, and I do enjoy 15 year scotch now and then. But I can't abide that feeling that you get when you get past two or three. And being sloppy drunk... I don't understand why kids do it, or adults... even though I have done it in my youth. But no, to me personnally I think Alcohol is a crude method to enjoy oneself if done solely for the feelings associated with it. But then again, a beer while bbqing and another at the table... it's all part of the tapestry of a fine meal.
Anyway, I've taken enough of your time. I think we may have to assume (or I at least) that just like one person likes one thing, it's not universally accepted that each and every other person will also like that one thing. I only say that because in my friend's own experience your side effects were NEVER experienced. Nor were any of his experiences under the influence (MJ) ever duplicated in another venue.
I'm not trying to push my views, only explain my experience.
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Permalink Reply by Autumn to Winter on -
Allan, I learned that people do react differently to different substances. Some are born with an addictive gene and some aren't. Pot seemed to not give me bad side effects when I was younger but as I approached 30 and right around that year it started making me feel lethargically tired for 3 days straight from one day of only a little bit of MJ. And then there is moderation, goes along with alcohol. Everything should be in moderation, some people over eat on a regular basis and personally I don't see why they would want to eat so much because when I do - the after effects make me feel miserable. While they may think why would someone want to feel those side effects of MJ but perhaps there just are no side effects when they over eat or when someone else smokes MJ. Did that make sense? lol
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Permalink Reply by ALLAN on
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It did and does make sense.
I got to tell you that if it gave me lethargy for three days I certainly wouldn't do it. Truth to tell I'm not sure how I react to the stuff at my current age. I like to wake at four am and fool around with my aqaurium or read a book. Getting an early start on the day really stimulates me, so no I definitely wouldn't do it.
I tend to overeat when the food is good. But that's only because food is so awesome. My saddest part of a good steak dinner is the last few bites when the end becomes apparent. But the moment I start to gain weight I push away from the table a lot earlier. I thoroughly enjoy the food, but you can enjoy something without saturation becoming a necessary part of it.
You keyed it perfectly though. Moderation. That is one thing that I think we have lost almost entirely. There are mongers everywhere.
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Permalink Reply by Autumn to Winter on
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Thats why I quit MJ back then and it was also starting to affect my equilibrium. I think in our 20's we have stamna to handle alot more of various things. I can't stand it if I get to full that makes me nauseous more than any hangover. Must be reflux, lol.
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Permalink Reply by ALLAN on
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LOL, yeah, I keep forgetting that I have passed the big 40 and my life is nearly over... things will stop working... I'll start making strange noises... I will smell weird :-o Oh no, don't put that evil on me!!!
LOL
My pleasures are relatively simple these days, dawn, just mowed grass, cooking with wood in the BBQ... ah, life is good!
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Permalink Reply by Autumn to Winter on
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Lol, I'm right there with ya! 43 and just thrilled if my knee doesn't hurt for awhile, lol.
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Permalink Reply by Sjadine on -
OK thanx for all the explanations with the drugs. I recall being taught that crack was a different form of cocaine but I never understood the main difference. Then I remember Whitney Houston and her whole, "I did cocaine not crack" speech.
I am such a weak little girl, I am really afraid of drugs because I fear getting addicted. I think MTV did a special on a girl who did Xtasy and she ended up with holes in her skull. Scared the crap out of me!
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Permalink Reply by Autumn to Winter on
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I have never tried anything harder than pot because I witnessed friends do it and like it so much that it ruined their life. I figured I am not above that so I never even tried cocaine or anything because I was afraid I'd like it and get ruined like some of them did. Even the few that don't do it anymore seem to be have more brain issues than most people in the memory and detail department, I mean you can tell they killed some cells there.
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Permalink Reply by ALLAN on
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Perfectly acceptable. There are a myriad of things that are to be experienced out there. It's a personal choice. The fact that you don't want to do it should be accepted and respected. The one thing I could never stand is the person who goes to the extreme trying to pressure another into something they don't want to do.
I used to talk my wife into taking these high rides (no pun, talking about the amusement park), even though I knew she hated heights. Always thought she would at least enjoy 'this one' more than the others. But it never failed. We get up to the top, she would start to panic, get shaky, and forget all of that by the time the ride was over. I mean completely forget the entire ride just shy of getting to the top. She obviously didn't enjoy something that I did, but I couldn't help myself. I've since stopped trying to talk her into something like that, I ride with others or my son.
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