After Bossman George and El Presidente Shawn went to a podcast convention, they said Kellie and Allen’s podcast needed to be kept under 45 minutes. After asking the Podcast Family what THEY wanted, find out whether future shows will be short and sweet or long and strong.

Get an update on rescue dog Larry’s “incident” that led to a surprising debate over the vet visit.

And Allen shares a Self magazine article sent to him by a Podcast Family member — “15 Lessons I’ve Learned in 15 Years of Marriage” by Anne Roderique-Jones. And Podcast Family member Hannah writes in for some life-changing advice.

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